The Artima Developer Community
Sponsored Link

Agile Buzz Forum
Useful tools aren't a priority...

0 replies on 1 page.

Welcome Guest
  Sign In

Go back to the topic listing  Back to Topic List Click to reply to this topic  Reply to this Topic Click to search messages in this forum  Search Forum Click for a threaded view of the topic  Threaded View   
Previous Topic   Next Topic
Flat View: This topic has 0 replies on 1 page
James Robertson

Posts: 29924
Nickname: jarober61
Registered: Jun, 2003

David Buck, Smalltalker at large
Useful tools aren't a priority... Posted: Jan 18, 2004 5:52 PM
Reply to this message Reply

This post originated from an RSS feed registered with Agile Buzz by James Robertson.
Original Post: Useful tools aren't a priority...
Feed Title: Cincom Smalltalk Blog - Smalltalk with Rants
Feed URL: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/rssBlog/rssBlogView.xml
Feed Description: James Robertson comments on Cincom Smalltalk, the Smalltalk development community, and IT trends and issues in general.
Latest Agile Buzz Posts
Latest Agile Buzz Posts by James Robertson
Latest Posts From Cincom Smalltalk Blog - Smalltalk with Rants

Advertisement
In Incipient, I read this bit on someone's desire's when using C :

I had an interesting conversation over a French-language programming newsgroup the other day. This person was inquiring about "Edit and Continue", tool support which would let him do simple, one-line changes to his C/C system from within a debugger session, and have the new code execute without needing to exit the program, recompile, rebuild, and start his session all over again.

My suggestion was to write small test programs to test bits of the program in isolation, which would obviate the need for debugger sessions as well as lengthy recompile/rebuild cycles. But, said my interlocutor, the programs I work on are "plugins" which fit within a larger architecture; I have to load the whole thing before I can test my own code. Even better, I replied. There should be a clean and well-defined interface between plugins and core, which will assist you in writing drivers and stubs enabling the above strategy. No, he told me, the "plugin architecture" mostly exists on paper. The program is actually a mess of tightly coupled spaghetti code. At which point I suggested that maybe that should be remedied.

Yes, writing small bits of code and testing are useful. Yes, having a cleaner base system is useful. But also - the limitations of C were his main problem. Had he done this using productive software - say Smalltalk, Lisp, Python, or Ruby - he wouldn't have had this problem at all, would have had edit and continue (only in an actual working state), and probably would have been able to diagnose the issues of the base system more easily. Instead, he got his productivity shot down, and a mass of confusion to boot. As well, that base system isn't really that poor student's problem either, and if my brother in law's Phd process was any indication, it's not as if he had time to deal with it anyway...

Read: Useful tools aren't a priority...

Topic: Self organizing marketing Previous Topic   Next Topic Topic: An Art, not a Science

Sponsored Links



Google
  Web Artima.com   

Copyright © 1996-2019 Artima, Inc. All Rights Reserved. - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use