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Jarno Virtanen

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Some general thoughts on EuroPython 2003 Posted: Jul 3, 2003 8:28 PM
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Herewith some general unorganized observations of mine about EuroPython 2003. (I am still writing up things about the content and such, but I don't promise anything yet.) So, I enjoyed it as whole and again, I would like to express my deepest gratitude to the people who made it possible. Thanks. (Organizers, attendees, etc.)

The place

We spent few days before the conference in Brussels, and I must say that I like Charleroi better. Yes, it is smaller, perhaps poorer and somewhat more industrial, but it doesn't have that "we want more tourists" written all over the place. I personally am not that much into shopping, even though I heard that Charleroi is not that bad on that either, but I like to have a cup of coffee or a glass of beer while generally enjoying the central european atmosphere, and Charleroi indeed provided that.

I am not against having the conference at Charleroi next year too, though I am not still sure whether I will and can attend the conference next year. (I want.) Both of the proposed, or made-up, alternatives, England and Sweden, suit me even better. I like to mix some normal acts of tourism to events like this, and I have seen Charleroi now. Sweden is, however, a place I have been to many, many times, and us Finns have a natural love-hate relationship with them. But still, Gothenburg would sound nice to me, although I think that Sweden as an alternative was ruled against in the informal hand-waving vote before Guido's keynote.

The venue

We left at 0800 wednesday from our hotel hoping that we would be at the venue before 0900. We made it, but with some trouble. See, this dutch guy with us had a map that had a strinkingly similar logo as of the CEME, but, as it turned out, the venue was not there. Then we asked some local guy, who looked like a business-man, for an advice, but at southern Belgium they really don't speak English (they need to stop dubbing tv-shows), and Leonard wasn't warmed up yet with his French. But with some hand-waving and pseudo-English he managed to direct us to the right way and we made it to the conference at time.

It took about 50 minutes to get to the venue from our hotel with all the wandering and such, and with a better picture of the route in our heads, we actually walked the whole way every morning and evening. This alternative was not mentioned at the EuroPython website at all, maybe because it would have been too difficult to map the route (though it wasn't that hard), and I think it should have been. Maybe not the whole route, but at least a mention that you can walk, and that it takes a whopping half an hour to walk there from the center. Walking is nice.

The venue itself was a neat place that had "European Union project" written all over the place. Let's just say that it wasn't a perfect match with style of the neighbourhood. Nothing wrong with that, but it just stood out so clearly. The interior was clean and nice, and had the necessary facilities in place.

There were three rooms where the presentations were held at, the Auditorium, and Salle Polyvalente A and B. ("Salle Polyvalente" sure sounds nice, now doesn't it.) You might guess or have heard this, but the auditorium was great and the others were OK. It was relatively hot there, well at least compared to the average weather here in Finland, and some people used the auditorium as a place just to chill out. (And I don't mean that "chill out" they do in tv-shows. Or maybe I do.)

The audio was quite OK too. Again, the auditorium was the best, but the little rooms had a bit of trouble with echoing. The other trouble was that since some of the speakers were amateurs or first-timers, they were not that familiar on how to use microphones and their voice. (I wouldn't have been familiar either.) But I managed to understand most of what they said with some concentration, so it was OK, too. I think the advice is to just speak up, which is to say: speak louder, but I know that giving a public talk is such an exciting and frightening event that it's just too difficult to keep concentrated on such things. But anyway, just speak up and speak slower, if possible.

Nitpicks

The organizers must have heard like zillion times about this, but let me state for the record that the name on the name tags was just too small; you couldn't just look over the badge when someone was passing by and see who the person was. Actually, me, Leonard, Jurgen Hermann and Etienne Posthumus did some crafting and wrote our names on the other side of the badge; don't know how it worked out. So, a big name, a little logo on the badge next time, please.

Food. I knew this already, but them central europeans have these funny misconceptions of the concept of vegetarian food. No, chicken is not vegetarian. (At CEME they didn't try to serve chicken as vegetarian food, but I've seen that happen.) No, fish is not vegetarian either. But that's OK, because as a vegetarian you have to be ready for these anyway and there was some real vegetarian stuff there too. (Fortunately I am not vegan.)

And, I just can't help myself about this, sorry. It feels a bit cruel thing to say, but. Um. Those pictures of Guido's kid are cute and everything, but I do not want to see them in the slides of some technical talk. There, I said it, now flame me for being a misanthrope. I know that the family should be the most important thing, but please spare me from pictures of your family members in technical talks. (I hope Guido doesn't read this and get upset.)

General

The variety in attendees' nationalities was refreshing, and therefore there was a real variety in accents of English, too. There were even couple of Finns besides me and Heimo, who was the chairman for the Zope track and whom I didn't get to talk with, that I exchanged some thoughts with. (In Finnish, which was a nice relief.) They were for the Zope track so didn't get to meet with them that much.

Speaking in English is difficult for me, because I desperately try to pronounce words as best as I can, but I can't, and I can hear it myself. And not so surprisingly the pronounciation is easier if the person you're talking with can pronounce well. I know that I should just concentrate on speaking clearly, not on trying to pronounce as well as possible, but this again is one of those things that I just can't help myself. And yes, french and spanish and german and other european people have funny and recognizable accents too, but that's just a bonus.

The price of the conference was fine with me, although I did only pay the student price, and, yes, I am a student, but I could have had paid the 200 euros also. (Maybe I need to donate.) And for that price you can't expect anything luxorious, just enthusiastic people sharing their ideas on the subject, which is, you know, more than enough for the price.

People. OK, I didn't get to meet with people that much, and those that I did get to know or speak with I am grateful for, but I am fine just with all I got from the conference as it is. Francis Glassborow did emphasize this aspect of communities (such as the Python community), that they are about people and communicating and all that kind of stuff, but it's not that easy for me to hook up with people out of blue. I am not that shy actually, but there's that small barrier of entry anyway. And I wasn't actually in my best mood for other reasons, and that might have had contributed to the fact. (I wish I had spoken more with Michael Hudson, but he was so energized and busy compared to me that I felt there wasn't a good moment for that. Although he did show some code that was inspired by seeing the Alex Martelli's talk on metaclasses, a concept on which he was already familiar with; code which I would have needed few more hours to tackle with. ;-)

Speaks

Speaks in general were good, although the quality varied quite a lot. The most important thing for me in an event like this is that the speaker is enthusiastic about the subject and Python. Sometimes it's good that the enthusiasm is even in the expense of the quality of the presentation. I think the most enthusiastic speaker which I saw was Armin Rigo who gave a talk on PyPy. Well, OK, it is easy to see why the subject is very exciting, but still. Armin even had his own presentation software (written in Python, of course, with the help of PyGame, I think) and there was definitely a great groove on, although I think I didn't understand everything.

Minor trouble with the talks was the fact that the conference centered around a vague subject of Python and the presentations were in their subjects almost too varied. (I don't know if you can complain about that, but.) Which is to say that they needed to give an introduction, or at least the speaker felt like it, on a hairy subject on itself, which took perhaps too much time from the talk. I think it's mostly best just to go to the point straight without too much introductive and motivational babbling, but again, it depends and you just need to follow the conventional wisdom about talks.

There's this one conventional wisdom about talks that you preferably should speak for too short than too long. Especially with events like EuroPython where a talk follows another and you might want to go to another talk and so on. I know that it's not easy to cut flesh out of your presentation, but that's life and more importantly that's your job as a speaker. So, again, my advice: take away those unnecessary slides cruelly and put those extra slides in the back of the presentation so they don't disrupt you and the audience during the talk. And I wouldn't put too much blame on the chairmen of the tracks because they have a really difficult job, and I still think it's the speaker's job to keep on time. The overruns on time weren't too much of trouble at EuroPython, but as a listener you almost always notice it.

Conclusion

Um, hmh.

Nice place, nice people, nice talks, good organization, a great experience as whole. I will be there next year if possible.

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