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Father of Java Has His Eye on Jackpot

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Bill Venners

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Father of Java Has His Eye on Jackpot Posted: Sep 24, 2002 1:52 PM
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"There are all of these open-source licenses out there. They pretty much all have their own political agenda. Sun has it's own. The one we use for Java is really about compatibility. The GPL one is, I find, rather odd because it has this string socialist agenda that basically says intellectual property is bad. I think it's perfectly fine for people to say, "I want to give my stuff away for free." When it turns into, "Nobody else should be able to make profit off of intellectual property," I start to have a hard time with it. And the core of my hard time with it is it's sort of like a physics argument about conservation of energy. It takes an awful lot of energy to produce software. Somehow or other that has to be matched. The energy that comes out as software, something's got to go in?if only to pay the salaries of the people who are working on the software. And you can have all kinds of indirect models and all the rest of it, but somehow or other it has to happen. Thermal dynamics and energy conservation laws have been absolutely strong, and they're that way in economics as well.

And the GPL version of the universe, where everything is free and essentially no software engineer can get a job doing software engineering because there's no money in software engineering, I sort of have a hard time with.

I have a certain sympathy about it because I think that there are ways in which the software industry gets really out of control. And intellectual property can be abused, but there's a midpoint somewhere in there that is much more balanced," says James Gosling in this eweek.com interview:

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,545632,00.asp


Bill Venners

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Re: Father of Java Has His Eye on Jackpot Posted: Sep 24, 2002 7:51 PM
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Gosling has been working on the developer tool project for a few years now, though I never heard him call it Jackpot.

He first mentioned it when I interviewed him in 2000:

http://www.artima.com/intv/gosling2.html

He described it in more detail in 2001:

http://www.artima.com/intv/gosling3.html

He talked about how a main point of the kind of tool he is working on is to help developers manage complexity here:

http://www.artima.com/intv/gosling32.html

I asked him to elaborate on semantic models in 2002:

http://www.artima.com/intv/goslingD.html

Lu Huang

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Re: Father of Java Has His Eye on Jackpot Posted: Sep 25, 2002 12:26 PM
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I heard Netbeans is incorporating some of the Gosling's result. Can anyone give an overview on how in real world semantic models actually work?

Bill Venners

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Re: Father of Java Has His Eye on Jackpot Posted: Sep 25, 2002 11:49 PM
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> I heard Netbeans is incorporating some of the
> Gosling's result. Can anyone give an overview on how
> in real world semantic models actually work?

Gosling himself talks a bit about semantic models here:

http://www.artima.com/intv/goslingD.html

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