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James Robertson

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Schwartz - still in lala land Posted: Jul 23, 2004 3:16 PM
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Jonathan Schwartz still thinks that commoditization is helping Sun - apparently, he's not noticed the buckets of money Java shovels at IBM - even as Sun continues to lose money (yes, they made money last quarter. Remove the MS payoff and the numbers are still brutal though). Here's more fantasy thinking:

At Sun, as I said, it's tough to compete against a social movement, especially one in which we all believe. But compete against a single company, Red Hat? Finally. Now that Sun's Solaris operating system runs on Intel, AMD and Sparc systems, our customers have immense choice. We can deliver our products at a lower price point, we can deliver more and better features, more innovation, legendary security (the national security kind), and far better customer support and responsiveness - maybe not for a developer looking for real-time patches (yet), but certainly for the enterprise looking for an accountable vendor.

So if you're running Red Hat, and feeling frustrated by their support, exorbitant pricing, or weak security, it's time to look at Solaris, on any of the more than 200 hardware platforms we support. From HP, Dell, IBM and, of course, Sun (and a host of others). The migration is a very easy one. So is the free download.

Yeah, keep whistling past the graveyard Jonathan. I have a tip for you: Redhat isn't the competition - Dell (lower cost) and IBM (Service and software delivery) are. Dell's costs are scads lower - which is why they sell so much hardware. IBM has a software suite that actually sells at a profit (while Sun doesn't). What's enabled that? Well, commoditization of hardware (making a Sparc purchase mostly insane), and commoditization of software (which Sun has done to itself with Java). No one wants the Sun hardware anymore - I see shops walking Sun out and Linux in every day.

It's worse than that though - Sun simply isn't structured to make money on the commodity sales end, and it's showing. Then we see this kind of thing:

And if you're looking for an open source Solaris, stay tuned there, too. Remember, it's in our roots.

That's too funny - watching Schwartz make public comments about open sourcing Solaris, while McNealy immediately makes negative comments about the idea. So is this good cop/bad cop, or is Schwartz just publically dissing McNealy? It's hard to tell from here.

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