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One of our (Cincom's) technical field staff attended the Seaside talk in bern, and I got this report from him in email:

I attended an SSUG presentation yesterday in Bern. This presentation was about Seaside, the revolutionary Smalltalk web application development framework.

The slides can be obtained from http://www.iamexwi.unibe.ch/studenten/renggli/choose/

There were about 25 attendees and I could talk with a few people. There is a unanimous agreement that using Seaside for a web application should outperform all other current technologies (ASP, J2EE, PHP, Zope, Struts, MVC, etc) in term of development speed. The speaker, Lukas Renggli, is a student at University of Bern but also work for a swiss company named netstyle that creates web application for their customers. For some of their customers they are using Seaside, together with Squeak. One of their complex apps was demoed during the talk, this was for an insurance company with 50000 customers (?). The app was completed in 3 months by two people. See http://www.netstyle.ch. They also demoed something smaller (Available at http://kilana.unibe.ch:8888/) that was done by 1 person in 4 days.

I also met Ian Prince from a swiss company named inextenso. They are currently building web application that they do using Zope (a Python based framework). They are now reconsidering they choice for Zope after they started looking at Seaside. See http://www.inextenso.com We promised to meet again in the near future. He wrote a report from that SSUG talk at http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning

Stephane Ducasse wrote that Seaside has the potential to make Smalltalk a "killer app" for web applications, because other languages like Java and PHP do not allow the implementation of the Seaside concepts. Some other languages would be OK though.

Sounds like a great talk; I'd love to see a similar one done here in North America. Avi?