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James Robertson

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OpenSkills and Smalltalk Posted: Jun 29, 2005 9:56 PM
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Last talk of the day, and of the conference - Bruce Badger is going to tell us how Smalltalkers can benefit from what he's doing with the OpenSkills organization - and how they use Smalltalk at OpenSkills. Here's Bruce:

Bruce Badger

What is OpenSkills? An open forum for networking and work support services. They provide a free, searchable skills base. They are a non-profit, so as an organization they have no money. So - all development is a volunteer effort, and Bruce, knowing Smalltalk and Java, would rather use Smalltalk (takes far less time. Observation: For consulting firms, Java is a great choice - takes 3x as long, so that's 3x the consulting dollars :)

They use WikiWorks for their Wiki. It works quite well, it's reliable, and it's fast. The SkillsBase is the pivotal application for them - Smalltalk is great for that because:

  • They have an evolving data model
  • They need to be scalable
  • They need distributed development
  • It makes good use of a scarce commodity - volunteer developer time

All of their web apps go through Squid as a reverse proxy, which gives them simple, secure connections. Their back end database is Gemstone. They've written the SkillsBase application so that it runs either in VisualWorks or in Gemstone - they actually run Swazoo out of Gemstone.

The membership system is a combination of:

  • A complex and underdefined process
  • lots of external interfaces
  • little time
  • Those are ideal for Smalltalk use, as it allows for easy evolution of the system as time and details allow

They are getting a lot of help from the open source community, both in Smalltalk and in Ruby. What do they see happening? They are seeing a lot of interest in Swazoo, Glorp, and Seaside. They are seeing a lot of interest in Squeak and Gnu Smalltalk. This is leading to an increased use of Smalltalk in the open source community.

What would Bruce like to see?

  • More ANSI work (streams, files, FFI)
  • More standardized ANSI interfaces for common libs (sockets, Dates/Times, etc)
  • Deployment simplicity- a beginner should be able to deploy "Hello World" (as a deployed app, rather than as a dev env). Yes, that's top of my list

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