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Eric Gunnerson

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Eric Gunnerson is a program manager on the Visual C# team
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Yesterday I had the pleasure of having lunch with Bill Venners and Bruce Eckel. Bill runs Artima.com, a cool site with lots of interesting content. Bruce, of course, is the noted author of Thinking in C++ , and MindView.net. Bruce taught me C++, or at least his book "Using C++" helped a bunch, way back in the early 1990s before I came to Microsoft.

They were here doing interviews, and we (Anders, Dan Fernandez, and I) talked a fair bit about language design and philosophy with them. Anders couldn't be there the whole time, so I fielded questions the rest of the time. One of the best ones that Bruce asked was, "How did the design team know that they were doing the right thing, absent real feedback. How did you avoid creating problems the way the C++ committee did?" (Bruce can say that since he was on the C++ standards committee for a number of years).

The answer is a two-part answer. All of us on the design team were real-world programmers, and Anders has a very practical approach to language design. The second reason is that we had a large group of framework programmers using C# as we developed it, and they were not shy when they found it too hard to do things with our current design.

A very enjoyable hour. Bruce has a blog.

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