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Jeff kept the RAD candle burning. May I add some kerosene ? The radrace (most links on the site point nowhere) is a competition where teams of two developers compete against each other to build a working application within two days. The limitations are that you have to cart in the equipment to do that by yourself (fork lift truck for an AS/400 allowed ?), the data model should be finished for 90% (no metrics defined), the main part of the data should come with the app (?) and the application will be made available for real life use. I'll leave it to Jeffrey to strike the match. To me it's sufficient to say that this does not look like my vision of RAD. The funny thing is that the event seems to be mainly a Java thing. I thought "those" guys were so serious.