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I've been working hard the last few weeks on the layout managers chapter of Desktop Java Live. Hopefully it will be sent off to technical edit this weekend. It looks like it will clock in at 60+ pages. The vast majority of those pages cover ExplicitLayout, TableLayout, and FormLayout in detail. At the moment I have over 20 code examples. As a result of the size of this chapter, GUI Builders will receive its own 20+ page chapter. If things continue at this page, this is going to be a large book.