I think it's going to take until 2010 until we really see the simplicity of Lisp come back to "commercial" programming systems. I'm seeing some of it now both inside and outside the big house, but there are a lot of people who need to move before we get there. - Don Box Hang on a minute. I thought to myself, "Huh?". This is the guy that wrote that book and co-authored that spec. Ah - emacs. Cool. [streets: fit but you know it]...