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Christopher Diggins

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I am looking to name a new operation in the Cat programming language.
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I am looking to name an operation which takes a function/program and returns a list of operations representing its constituent operations. For example using the name "sunder" it would be as follows: 
>>> define f { 1 2 + }
>>> @f sunder writeln 
( _1 , _2 , + )
The "@" operation pushes the function onto the stack without executing it.

Below is a list of current contenders. Any votes or suggestions would be much appreciated: 

decompile
decompose
split
sunder
uncouple
unlink
listify
to_list
to_ops
get_ops
constituents
subprograms
function2list
fun2list
fun_to_list


Michel Parisien

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 2, 2006 1:34 PM
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I may be wrong about this, but this sounds like Python's dir (returns a list of a module's methods and attributes). I'll admit, I really don't like the name, but I just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.

Christopher Diggins

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 2, 2006 1:53 PM
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> I may be wrong about this, but this sounds like Python's
> dir (returns a list of a module's methods and attributes).
> I'll admit, I really don't like the name, but I just
> thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.

I appreciate it nonetheless, I was looking for any related prior art.

I am in the meantime using "sunder" and it is starting to grow on me. 


>> define f { 1 + "hello" }
>> @f sunder writeln
(_1,+,_"hello")


The "@" operation pushes the following function onto the stack without executing it.

Carl Manaster

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 2, 2006 3:36 PM
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I don't know what your language looks like generally, but a nice English word for what you are describing would be, "capabilities". Or - since you use it in the description of what you're looking for - what about "operations"? Or if you want to get wordy, constituent_operations (cased to your language norms).

Sidharth Kuruvila

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 12:22 AM
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how about expression or as_expression?

Coman Horia

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 2:46 AM
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desintegrate? atomize?

Robbert van Dalen

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 2:52 AM
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How about pickle?

(serializing a program into a list).

Jules Jacobs

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 3:03 AM
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I'd choose a symmetrical name. complile/decompile, list->fun/fun->list, to-fun/to-list.

You should be aware that introducing this operation makes compilation much more difficult. Every compiled program has to carry an uncompiled version with it.

Roland Pibinger

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 10:29 AM
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nm or dumpbin?

Tony Alcock

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 2:31 PM
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ops

Christopher Diggins

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 3, 2006 7:24 PM
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> nm or dumpbin?

"nm" intrigues me, where does it come from?

Max Lybbert

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 5, 2006 10:02 AM
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I believe nm is named after the UNIX tool ( http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/nm.html ).

Andy Dent

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 6, 2006 12:57 AM
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sunder is a destructive verb which I would read as a synonym for unlink, unmap, split...

dir works for me in Python.

ls should be avoided - confusion with is

For those of us with a Zork background, inventory is descriptive :-)

Vincent O'Sullivan

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 6, 2006 2:16 AM
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A quick play with Word's thesaurus function threw up recap, as in definition 1a below:
recapitulate

1 v.t. & i.
  a Go briefly through again, go over the main points of (an argument, statement, etc.); sum up. L16. 
  b v.t. Biol. Repeat (supposed evolutionary stages) in the development and growth of a young animal. L19.
  c v.t. Mus. Repeat (a musical theme) in a recapitulation. M20.
2 v.t. Bring together again; unite. rare. E17.
V.

Phillip Wright

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Re: On Naming an Operation for Cat Posted: Sep 7, 2006 12:46 AM
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expand

explode (like an exploded view of a mechanical device)

Explode seems to be a good description of what you're doing, and for people who don't understand explode in the implied sense, the generally understood meaning of explode (the BOOM! kind) would still provide a decent idea of what is happening (since an explosion blows things into pieces).

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