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Krisztian Sinka

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Registered: Mar, 2009

Re: "The Power of Hybridization" Video from CERN

Posted: Oct 28, 2011 1:28 AM

Regarding C++, I am a bit biased but can be persuaded, so here are my points:
- I do not see the GC (Garbage Collector) as a focal point. I treat the langauge in a way that it has been pointed optional: there are some libraries if one needs it, but basically it is not omipresent.
I think it also opens some way for C++ in the embedded world, where usually these things are quite not needed.
Disregarding C++ I have seen systems threated as high reliable to fail due GC as its internal nature was overlooked and timing issues caused errors.
- UI? Well I think there are quite some good libraries and possibilities (in alphabetical order): Fltk, Gtk++, Qt, wxWidgets,etc. Yes each has its own shortcomings but nothing can be 100% good for everyone.

And thank you for the insightful presentation.
And yeah, I like your painting on the "Solution" slide :)

Fred Finkelstein

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Registered: Jun, 2008

Re: "The Power of Hybridization" Video from CERN

Posted: Oct 29, 2011 5:39 AM

Nice presentation. When you present the Go language you mention that in Go you can have multiple return values. I would like to add that this is not a new concept: In Algol 58
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL_58
procedures could also have multiple return values. I don't know why this concept is not more common nowadays. Gosling regrets that he didn't add multiple return values to Java in this c-family-interview
http://www.gotw.ca/publications/c_family_interview.htm

Bruce Eckel

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Re: "The Power of Hybridization" Video from CERN

Posted: Oct 30, 2011 12:33 PM

> Nice presentation. When you present the Go language you
> mention that in Go you can have multiple return values. I
> would like to add that this is not a new concept: In Algol
> 58
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL_58
> procedures could also have multiple return values. I don't
> know why this concept is not more common nowadays. Gosling
> regrets that he didn't add multiple return values to Java
> in this c-family-interview
> http://www.gotw.ca/publications/c_family_interview.htm

Yes, it's a completely obvious fundamental feature once you see it. Scala has it, Python has it, and I think Ruby. Many pure functional languages also return tuples. I'd have a hard time considering a new language to be reasonably modern without tuples.

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